Sunday, September 18, 2005

Anti-War folks, please enlighten us.....

I'm watching "Pearl Harbor." It's funny how I get angry at different people depending on what war movie is on. (The Japanese piss me off right now, Somalies during Blackhawk Down, Vietnamese in We Were Soldiers, etc.)

These are my favorite quotes from this movie and are fitting when speaking about the War on Terror:

"VICTORY BELONGS TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN IT THE MOST, BELIEVE IN IT THE LONGEST."

"THERE'S NOTHING STRONGER THAN THE HEART OF A VOLUNTEER."

My sister, Ranting Republican and I were just discussing the movie and we're pissed that they cut out "jap bastards" and replaced it with "bums." Why? You can say "Jap" on TV....and you can say "Bastard" on TV.....they bomb us and the media won't let us say "Jap Bastards?" Bastards.

The other thing we were discussing is the parallel between the start of WWII and the War on Terror. Japan attacked us, not Germany. Should we have not gone into Germany to stop the brutal dictator Adolf Hitler? He was killing millions of his own people, not attacking America. But we felt it was wrong and attacked the Nazi's. Bin Laden and his crew based in Afganistan attacked America, not Iraq (even though I still think otherwise.) We attacked them back (like we did the Japs), and then decided to go after Saddam Hussein, a brutal dictator who violently killed hundreds of thousands of his own people...some even for sport. He tested biological and chemical weapons on his own people. Please tell me what is the difference? Ranting Republican and I would love to know.

12 Comments:

At 10:02 PM , Blogger Ranting Republican said...

The difference is that Roosevelt and Truman were Democrats. And Democrats can do no wrong in the eyes of Democrats...so if a Democrat decided to go after Saddam - he'd be the "Savior of the Free World!"

Let's not forget when the libs call Republicans the war party, or war-mongers, in the history of the U.S., damn near every single war we've been involved in a Democrat has put us there. I'm not saying I disagree with us going into these wars, I'm saying that they claim to be for "peace" and "diplomacy".

Yah, and Truman dropped the bomb.

 
At 10:48 PM , Blogger crossingguard69 said...

i fuckn hate we were soldiers

 
At 10:34 AM , Blogger pappy said...

The difference is we went fom a generation of hard working brave American men and women to the baby boomers and beyond.

 
At 10:59 AM , Blogger Ranting Republican said...

Another good point. CG - it's a good movie - why do you hate it? Because dad sings that song? :)

 
At 12:29 PM , Blogger Eddie said...

Pappy, I couldn't agree more about the baby boomer comments. I thank God everyday that my parents, even though I am 29, weren't baby boomers. They were both born just before the war, and have a pleasant old school mentality a lot of boomers don't possess.

Ranting Republican is a woman? Honestly, I had no idea.

 
At 12:58 PM , Blogger crossingguard69 said...

I dont want to turn this into a movie debate but I hate this stupid movie because it feeds off of every other war movie ever made. There is no distinct plot that seperates this from anything else, and it has Chris Klein in it. Since when was he allowed to escape the American Pie trilogy. We were soldiers represents everything that is wrong with movies... you take digitally enhanced blood and gore and throw a sad uber American song on it and all of a sudden your not allowed to dislike it. This movie steals everything, for instance, the entire way it was shot, from the lenses to the angles, is exactly stolen from saving private ryan, a better movie without Chris Klein...the story, though true, is way too similar to hamburger hill, a better movie without Chris Klein...I would put this right up there with Pearl Harbor for the worst war movie ever mad...The first 5 minutes of Full metal Jacket would be better to watch for 2 hours than either one of these movies, Klein, Afleck, and Hartnett should be shot on sight for being pieces of shit (afleck post mallrats, chasing amy, and good will hunting), and Tom Sizemore, Alec Baldwin, and Mel Gibson should be highly reprimanded for lending their abilities to these JOHN WOOish crowd pleasing movies...Its like in the simpsons when they are at a concert and the band goes "is anyone here from SPRINGFIELD!!!??" and everyone cheers, got news for you Bay and Wallace, just because you want patriotic applauses doesnt mean you can push this crap on an unsuspecting public who is forced to see it because of fear of shunning from the American society. Pearl Harbor tries to make a good plot but no one likes to talk about what a damn whore kate beckonsale is...the love of her life fuckn dies and she goes off and gets dicked by his best friend in an ironically white setting...Tori has an affinity for putting posts about movies with selfish whores as the protagonist female i.e:when fatty wouldnt get off the floating wood for 5 minutes for sinking leo...Keep posting movies like Boondock saints, true romance, swingers, and Platoon, good movies with good actors, one more teenybop-turned-serious flick and i will send this fuckn page a virus and take all of you down with me...
hugs and kisses

 
At 2:05 PM , Blogger Ranting Republican said...

You didn't know I was a woman Eddie? Haha - I'm a cute one at that!

 
At 3:08 PM , Blogger Eddie said...

Ranting: I had no idea. I am a man, and an ugly one at that. Just kidding.

 
At 1:02 PM , Blogger fetching jen said...

I started writing a post that's going to take some time, about the various generations, and how the current two or three have never had to defend their rights or freedoms; it's why so may of them act so spoiled and entitled.

I'm a boomer married to a war baby, with a Gen Y kid. Interesting to have three generations in one house.

And I agree with your comments about the use of the word "Jap." America hated the Japanese for good reason, but suddenly it's no nice to say those words.

It's not the generation who lived through WWII who are worried about the feelings of the Japanese...

It's the spoiled, liberal, whining boomers - the entitlement generation.

good post

fj

 
At 8:53 AM , Blogger mthomas1776 said...

for the record Germany declared war on us during WWII, It was in responce to our decleration of war on their allie Japan. We didn't declare war on Germany to do anything about human rights violations as you suggest...

CG, I have met General Moore, he is a good man and his story is piercing. If you had read the book a decade or more ago, you would have been a little more interested in the movie, but I agree with you that it does nothing novel in terms of war movies, it is just working off of the popularity of the book.

 
At 8:54 AM , Blogger mthomas1776 said...

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At 3:15 PM , Blogger The Watchful One said...

As Mthomas1776 correctly pointed out, Germany declared war on the US before the US declared war on Germany. To Mthomas1776's point, I would add that comparisons between Adolph Hitler and Saddam Hussein are more or less useless. Hitler controlled much of Europe by the time the US went to war against Germany. Hussein was not even in control of much of his own country when the US went to war against Iraq.

Of course, Saddam was a threat to his region, but I don't think he was the kind of threat which warranted the bloody and costly occupation we see in Iraq today.

TWO

 

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